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Post by rabbeseking on Nov 17, 2008 18:48:23 GMT -5
Eh, I'm Agonostic, since Athiesim is as bad as any other religion, because it believes in a definite answer, where there isn't one. So I really wont answer, because I really dont care. Really.
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Post by Darknezz on Nov 17, 2008 18:58:53 GMT -5
Eh, I'm Agonostic, since Athiesim is as bad as any other religion, because it believes in a definite answer, where there isn't one. So I really wont answer, because I really dont care. Really. Atheism does not believe in a definite answer. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a God. Theism is what you believe. Atheism is a lack of belief. Atheism is not the belief that there is no God. Now we get into gnosticism. Gnosticism is what you know or think you know. Agnostic means you don't know. That said, do you believe? If not, you're an agnostic atheist. If you do, you're an agnostic theist. Simply saying "I'm agnostic" is not an answer to "Do you believe there's a God?" I ask once more for any evidence for this claim. People need something to blame stuff on, and we should worship it because of that? What? |
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Post by AznSenzation on Nov 17, 2008 19:24:33 GMT -5
God is not just made for blame. I repeat, God is here, because he is the one who created us. Otherwise, we depend on him to help us, because he is really the only one who can. God is there to create, destroy, forgive, and repent.
You asked for evidence, i gave you evidence, alongside a story. I told you, that Jesus Christ was the one who told the people of God. If it was true blasphemy and insanity, it wouldn't have been passed down. Scriptures were also wrote along with the bible to further explain teachings of Jesus and God.
God is worshipped because of the appreciation most of us have. We appreciate the world he's given us. we appreciate the food he gives us. We appreciate the home he shelters us with, the clothing we have, the family we have. God is also there to comfort us in our time of need. the world today is corrupt. Full of trouble and the lack of disposition of sanity. He's also there to help in indirect, yet certain ways. He provides support, direction, miracles, gifts, forgiveness. THat is all i have to say
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Post by Sax on Nov 17, 2008 19:26:53 GMT -5
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Post by IkusaGTx on Nov 17, 2008 19:32:16 GMT -5
I myself believe in God.
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Post by SnowOwl96 on Nov 17, 2008 19:36:05 GMT -5
Like everyone has said If you want evidence you're not going to find it here with us. If you want to understand what makes us believe in our god you'll have to research it my friend. Some people find what they are looking for by studying the subject they want info on, others find out through personal experience. If you want to understand then go find it fore we can't provide you with what you are looking for. This is something that you have to search within yourself for its not something visible or touchable. If you want to believe then believe.
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Post by AznSenzation on Nov 17, 2008 19:43:54 GMT -5
Have you ever watched "Bruce Almighty" Darknezz? While it is a comedy, it still revolves around the belief of god. it's a great movie. you should see it sometime.
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Post by Darknezz on Nov 17, 2008 19:55:14 GMT -5
your confusing my words darknezz, though i never state them clearly to begin with. God is what we lay our troubles on, he is always there for us, in our greatest times of need. blame might be a bad way to put it, but its something that does comfort. If we know that something that happened was out of our hands, but more so the will of god, we are able to part with lost love ones and the like. and dont you DARE use that whole "where is the proof" nuts again. That is irrelevant in a argument about religion, seeing as how there is no proof either way, no matter what someone says otherwise. A belief is exactly that, a belief. You can believe it, or you can't. that choice is up to you, no one is going to be able to prove to you, so that you may make an "educated decision". the decision can only be based off of what you feel. so in the long run, no matter what we say, that proof is all in your head and in your heart. once again, Atheist In any matter that involves a wild claim such as yours, proof is needed for anyone with a logical mind to accept it. You can't say that you don't need evidence or proof because that goes against the very foundation of science and logic. Now, once more, I will ask, do you have any sufficient evidence for your claim that God exists and do you have a reason I should worship him? |
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Post by AznSenzation on Nov 17, 2008 19:59:47 GMT -5
AHEM, look at my post Darknezz. i explained why we appreciate him. Also, travis didn't say we don't NEED evidence or proof. it's that we CAN'T and DON'T have any proof to show that god is there. That is why it's a belief.
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Post by Darknezz on Nov 17, 2008 20:02:46 GMT -5
AHEM, look at my post Darknezz. i explained why we appreciate him. Also, travis didn't say we don't NEED evidence or proof. it's that we CAN'T and DON'T have any proof to show that god is there. That is why it's a belief. And without a justification to believe the claim of a God, there is no reason to believe that said God exists. If we do take it on blind faith that it exists, there's still no reason to worship it. |
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Post by AznSenzation on Nov 17, 2008 20:04:48 GMT -5
AHEM, look at my post Darknezz. i explained why we appreciate him. Also, travis didn't say we don't NEED evidence or proof. it's that we CAN'T and DON'T have any proof to show that god is there. That is why it's a belief. And without a justification to believe the claim of a God, there is no reason to believe that said God exists. If we do take it on blind faith that it exists, there's still no reason to worship it. And that's your opinion. That's the beauty of it. Believe what you will as i do. |
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Post by SnowOwl96 on Nov 18, 2008 10:54:43 GMT -5
And without a justification to believe the claim of a God, there is no reason to believe that said God exists. If we do take it on blind faith that it exists, there's still no reason to worship it. Well unfortunatly people do find reasons to believe, we don't know who is right and who is wrong when it comes to believing in something nor can we show you anything for it. Yea we can show you a picture of a cloud with a face and claim that it's the face of god and not everyone will agree of course but there are a select few that will say yeah thats him. Believing in something like god or abraham, the prophets or whoever you want to believe in is up to you. I can't give you what you're looking for. Its just a matter of you and what would convince you in person than on the internet with a bunch of people with different religous backgrounds. Believe it or not people do find faith through personal experience. I really can't go any further with this basically because I don't know what else I could say . |
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Post by rabbeseking on Nov 18, 2008 11:40:31 GMT -5
In a reply to Darknezz, I don't know if there is a god. There's no way I can know, and I'm not going to pretend I do know. I prefer to just stay away from religion and it's oppositions, because I don't plan to study the Bible, Qur'an, The Buddhist Canon's, or even the Book of Scientology, because I'm not interested. Call it ignorance, call it apathy, whatever I just chose to stay away.
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Post by Travis on Nov 18, 2008 11:48:12 GMT -5
AHEM, look at my post Darknezz. i explained why we appreciate him. Also, travis didn't say we don't NEED evidence or proof. it's that we CAN'T and DON'T have any proof to show that god is there. That is why it's a belief. And without a justification to believe the claim of a God, there is no reason to believe that said God exists. If we do take it on blind faith that it exists, there's still no reason to worship it. darknezz... thats bullsh it. if you want to make a thread for people to somehow show you that there is a god, you can not go into it like that. there is absolutely NO proof that god exists, yet millions worship him. its not blind faith because people feel something there. its a personal experience. when you go about it as blindly as you are, then you are just being ignorant. I think you have no intention of finding a faith at all, you just wanted a thread with a lot of responses.... yah, im calling you out. |
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Post by SnowOwl96 on Nov 18, 2008 11:58:06 GMT -5
I have a lot of respect for you guys. This isn't an easy topic to discuss.
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