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Post by shortbus on Apr 28, 2009 15:52:22 GMT -5
Buddhism is basically atheism, lol.
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Post by 669 on Apr 29, 2009 9:40:28 GMT -5
Buddhism isn't atheism no, it's closer to atheism perhaps because there's not a belief in a god but there is belief in something spiritual and there are of course rules that you have to follow and there are people who just devote their lives sitting in temples and not thinking, Im sorry "meditating"
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Post by nikopdr on Apr 29, 2009 9:53:54 GMT -5
God is a myth. Unless we have proper proof that a such thing exists as god, we can only say that it is a myth made up by people. The stuff told in bible conflicts very hardly with evolution theory, thus making it look like it is made up. I think bible would be good to read as a book, not as to worship a thing that does not exists.  nikopdr |
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Post by shilohdegreat on Apr 29, 2009 10:16:20 GMT -5
Buddhism isn't atheism no, it's closer to atheism perhaps because there's not a belief in a god but there is belief in something spiritual and there are of course rules that you have to follow and there are people who just devote their lives sitting in temples and not thinking, Im sorry "meditating" I'm pretty sure shortbus was kidding. |
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Post by Darknezz on Apr 29, 2009 12:06:26 GMT -5
Buddhism isn't atheism no, it's closer to atheism perhaps because there's not a belief in a god but there is belief in something spiritual and there are of course rules that you have to follow and there are people who just devote their lives sitting in temples and not thinking, Im sorry "meditating" First of all, you're a complete and utter tw at. Second, Buddhism does not believe hold a belief in a God, and therefore, is atheism with spirituality thrown in. Atheism does not exclude spirituality. It excludes a God. Please, read the topic over again, especially the bloody page you posted on where I've stated this quite clearly multiple times. Third, meditation is not "not thinking." It is, in fact, deep thought on certain subjects. For the most part. And when a Buddhist meditates, they do so in an attempt to reach their Nirvana, a silly concept, but one that is part of their belief structure. As much as I hate religions, I simply cannot hate Buddhism; Not only do Buddhists not try to enforce their beliefs on others, not only do they not try to pry into the lives and free will of others like other major religions, they also don't really do anything but believe what they believe. And I commend Buddhists for it. If I were to ever pick up a religion, for whatever reason, it would probably be Buddhism, simply because they're not trying to force themselves where they don't belong like Christians and Catholics. Now then, kindly fu ck off before I get angry. You won't like me when I'm angry. [/hulk] |
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Post by 669 on Apr 29, 2009 14:18:41 GMT -5
Buddhism isn't atheism no, it's closer to atheism perhaps because there's not a belief in a god but there is belief in something spiritual and there are of course rules that you have to follow and there are people who just devote their lives sitting in temples and not thinking, Im sorry "meditating" First of all, you're a complete and utter tw at. Second, Buddhism does not believe hold a belief in a God, and therefore, is atheism with spirituality thrown in. Atheism does not exclude spirituality. It excludes a God. Please, read the topic over again, especially the bloody page you posted on where I've stated this quite clearly multiple times. Third, meditation is not "not thinking." It is, in fact, deep thought on certain subjects. For the most part. And when a Buddhist meditates, they do so in an attempt to reach their Nirvana, a silly concept, but one that is part of their belief structure. As much as I hate religions, I simply cannot hate Buddhism; Not only do Buddhists not try to enforce their beliefs on others, not only do they not try to pry into the lives and free will of others like other major religions, they also don't really do anything but believe what they believe. And I commend Buddhists for it. If I were to ever pick up a religion, for whatever reason, it would probably be Buddhism, simply because they're not trying to force themselves where they don't belong like Christians and Catholics. Now then, kindly fu ck off before I get angry. You won't like me when I'm angry. [/hulk] First of all, e-bullying doesn't realy work on me so you can go ahead and suck my e-**** I was refering to spirituality like belief in the supernatural which at least as far as I know most atheists don't believe in, I can't speak for all atheists though so maybe I said it in the wrong matter. I don't know why exactly you have a such a hard-on for buddhism but it has done it's shares of shit along with pretty much any major religion. To be honest buddhism is probably the most anti-civilization religion there is. And on the subject of meditating, it is to clear your mind of thought and fill your spirit with relaxation, no? Deep thoughts on important subjects is called philosophizing I think. |
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Post by Darknezz on Apr 29, 2009 14:47:17 GMT -5
First of all, you're a complete and utter tw at. Second, Buddhism does not believe hold a belief in a God, and therefore, is atheism with spirituality thrown in. Atheism does not exclude spirituality. It excludes a God. Please, read the topic over again, especially the bloody page you posted on where I've stated this quite clearly multiple times. Third, meditation is not "not thinking." It is, in fact, deep thought on certain subjects. For the most part. And when a Buddhist meditates, they do so in an attempt to reach their Nirvana, a silly concept, but one that is part of their belief structure. As much as I hate religions, I simply cannot hate Buddhism; Not only do Buddhists not try to enforce their beliefs on others, not only do they not try to pry into the lives and free will of others like other major religions, they also don't really do anything but believe what they believe. And I commend Buddhists for it. If I were to ever pick up a religion, for whatever reason, it would probably be Buddhism, simply because they're not trying to force themselves where they don't belong like Christians and Catholics. Now then, kindly fu ck off before I get angry. You won't like me when I'm angry. [/hulk] First of all, e-bullying doesn't realy work on me so you can go ahead and suck my e-**** I was refering to spirituality like belief in the supernatural which at least as far as I know most atheists don't believe in, I can't speak for all atheists though so maybe I said it in the wrong matter. I don't know why exactly you have a such a hard-on for buddhism but it has done it's shares of shit along with pretty much any major religion. To be honest buddhism is probably the most anti-civilization religion there is. And on the subject of meditating, it is to clear your mind of thought and fill your spirit with relaxation, no? Deep thoughts on important subjects is called philosophizing I think. When I tell you to read, fucking read. Buddhists do not belief in a God, and are therefore atheists with a structured belief. What has Buddhism done that rivals, oh I dunno, the Crusades? Anti-civilization? How so? And I'm not going to debate semantics with you. |
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Post by shilohdegreat on Apr 30, 2009 8:38:47 GMT -5
First of all, e-bullying doesn't realy work on me so you can go ahead and suck my e-**** I was refering to spirituality like belief in the supernatural which at least as far as I know most atheists don't believe in, I can't speak for all atheists though so maybe I said it in the wrong matter. I don't know why exactly you have a such a hard-on for buddhism but it has done it's shares of shit along with pretty much any major religion. To be honest buddhism is probably the most anti-civilization religion there is. And on the subject of meditating, it is to clear your mind of thought and fill your spirit with relaxation, no? Deep thoughts on important subjects is called philosophizing I think. When I tell you to read, f**k**g read. Buddhists do not belief in a God, and are therefore atheists with a structured belief. What has Buddhism done that rivals, oh I dunno, the Crusades? Anti-civilization? How so? And I'm not going to debate semantics with you. Just to let you know, some Buddhists are theistic, and do believe in a God. |
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Post by Darknezz on Apr 30, 2009 16:08:41 GMT -5
Then they're not Buddhists. Not really. They're mixing religions.
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Post by shilohdegreat on Apr 30, 2009 16:44:50 GMT -5
They're Buddhists, they're just a different branch. What you just said is comparable to saying that Mormons aren't Christian because they believe that Jesus came to America and all that jazz. They're still Christian, and a theistic Buddhist is still Buddhist.
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Post by haroot on May 3, 2009 8:23:54 GMT -5
I don't think the concept of a God is wrong, but I have a problem with religion. Besides the obvious lack of evidence, I'll get to why in a moment. So is there a God? I don't know. And quite frankly I don't care. Why don't I? Well first, watch this decently old and probably well known gif in it's entirety.  Now do you think a God, who created and maintains such a vast, vast area of space, would have the slightest care what a college undergrad from Hawaii said on a forum? Would he be surfing the web, come across this post and act along the lines of, "Oh, look. A God threa- wha.....THAT CHEEKY BASTARD. The Hell does Haroot think he is!? I am going to unleash the wrath of the COSMOS on his ass." I doubt it. And even if he did see it, he's/she's/it's God. Why should he/she/it care what I think? I could think up a rather crude example for men, but I don't think it's appropriate for this forum. And that ties back to my problem with religion. Most have this idea that out of everything in space (Solar flares, auroras, black holes, and whatever natural beauties you can see out there.) he/she/it has decided to focus mainly on Earth. Long post short, God or not, we're too insignificant for him/her/it to care about. |
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Post by Ant0o0wn on Jun 9, 2009 10:08:04 GMT -5
Just think of this .... if you have a pet (humanity) , would you(God) expect your pet to be able to understand science, math and literature.
... God's level of intelligence is so much greater than ours that our finite existence will never be able to understand God.
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Post by shilohdegreat on Jun 9, 2009 14:33:23 GMT -5
Just think of this .... if you have a pet (humanity) , would you(God) expect your pet to be able to understand science, math and literature. ... God's level of intelligence is so much greater than ours that our finite existence will never be able to understand God. Pets see their owner and are dependent upon him/her. Man does just fine without believing in a God. |
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Post by Darknezz on Jun 9, 2009 22:23:10 GMT -5
Just think of this .... if you have a pet (humanity) , would you(God) expect your pet to be able to understand science, math and literature. ... God's level of intelligence is so much greater than ours that our finite existence will never be able to understand God. If you think your mind is too small to understand God, then how do you actually know that there is one, or that anything you claim about him is correct? Or is it only that you think my mind is too small? |
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Post by Ant0o0wn on Jun 10, 2009 3:55:55 GMT -5
If you think your mind is too small to understand God, then how do you actually know that there is one, or that anything you claim about him is correct? Or is it only that you think my mind is too small? well the question really is how do you know there is no God? Can you explain everything in the universe? Have you read the bible? or the books of other religions? you really can't say there isn't unless you've examined all the information depicting that existence. Pets see their owner and are dependent upon him/her. what? pets can live on their own and fend for themselves, not necessarily dependent on their owner. Man does just fine without believing in a God. Yeah just look at Hitler.... Double posts combined into one. Don't double post. -Darknezz |
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