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Post by SnowOwl96 on Feb 25, 2009 19:22:59 GMT -5
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! Snow, read Peter 3:28 and don't stop until i tell you to. I was going to ask you this one aim but you're not on. edit: I have two bibles in front of me and I've found the First and Second Letter to Peter but i'm not seeing 3:28. Am I backing you up or are you answering a question I asked earlier? |
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Post by 669 on Feb 26, 2009 9:53:56 GMT -5
read Peter 3:28 and don't stop until i tell you to. So I'm evil now? |
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Post by SnowOwl96 on Feb 26, 2009 10:54:07 GMT -5
::sigh:: Azn, when you get a chance please answer my question.
Btw, I did read over both Letters to Peter in the bible. I'm just not sure if there's a certain passage you want me to post or not. And in my bibles there is no 3:28.
Which Peter do you want me to re-read and is there a heading or title? o.O
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Post by 669 on Feb 27, 2009 2:48:49 GMT -5
I think he means "Finally, all of you must live in harmony, be sympathetic, love as brothers, and be compassionate and humble. 9Do not pay others back evil for evil or insult for insult. Instead, keep blessing them, because you were called to inherit a blessing."
A passage he doesn't seem to follow at least.
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Post by SnowOwl96 on Feb 27, 2009 13:55:22 GMT -5
Ah, now that would be the First Letter of Peter "Suffering For Doing Right." And I see you've already posted the main part I believe so there's no reason for me to post it again. I actually held back replying because I didn't want to sound like a unsure, idiotic jerk by possibly posting the wrong thing. Thank you for replying though.
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Post by Wednesday_R on Feb 27, 2009 14:20:23 GMT -5
Respect what? The big bang theory, or my "belief" in it. I couldn't care less, don't try with your sympathy here saying you respect my beliefs, I dont have any. I don't respect religion for good reasons, since it gives power to people who don't deserve it, it corrupts people and causes deaths and has caused millions of deaths already. I also don't respect the fact that a lot of coutries give religion free will pretty much, instead of keeping it neutral as it should be. I'm not trying to take away anyone's beliefs, I just don't think their beliefs should have control over other people that don't desire it. The belief that religion is inherently evil is a bit foolish. Its not God that corrupts people. People corrupt people. Religion by itself, as an idea, is good. Don't lie, don't steal, don't kill, etc. There's nothing wrong with that, nothing I couldn't respect. When PEOPLE get ahold of religion and make a belief system out of it, that is when bad things happen. |
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Post by kakihara on Feb 28, 2009 0:53:53 GMT -5
When PEOPLE get ahold of religion and make a belief system out of it, that is when bad things happen. When people get a hold of anything, they always fuck it up. |
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Post by 669 on Feb 28, 2009 6:38:24 GMT -5
Respect what? The big bang theory, or my "belief" in it. I couldn't care less, don't try with your sympathy here saying you respect my beliefs, I dont have any. I don't respect religion for good reasons, since it gives power to people who don't deserve it, it corrupts people and causes deaths and has caused millions of deaths already. I also don't respect the fact that a lot of coutries give religion free will pretty much, instead of keeping it neutral as it should be. I'm not trying to take away anyone's beliefs, I just don't think their beliefs should have control over other people that don't desire it. The belief that religion is inherently evil is a bit foolish. Its not God that corrupts people. People corrupt people. Religion by itself, as an idea, is good. Don't lie, don't steal, don't kill, etc. There's nothing wrong with that, nothing I couldn't respect. When PEOPLE get ahold of religion and make a belief system out of it, that is when bad things happen. Well if you only mention the commandments that are good of course you make it sound good. There are other ones as well: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." Sounds a little bit like fascism, no? Love your neighbor as yourself. What if your neighbor is a crazy sick bastard and a serial killer? "Do not give false testimony" That means pretty much don't lie and almost everyone lies, if everyone in the world would be honest it would be a pretty awful place. "Honor your father and mother" So I guess the children of Josef Fritzl should honor him then. "Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above" I guess the sistene chapel is a sin then. ""Do not swear falsely by the name of the LORD" God damn it. |
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Post by AznSenzation on Feb 28, 2009 12:50:42 GMT -5
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! Snow, read Peter 3:28 and don't stop until i tell you to. I was going to ask you this one aim but you're not on. edit: I have two bibles in front of me and I've found the First and Second Letter to Peter but i'm not seeing 3:28. Am I backing you up or are you answering a question I asked earlier? I just made up that chapter so that no one would actually read it. |
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Post by shilohdegreat on Mar 1, 2009 19:10:46 GMT -5
"Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above" I guess the sistene chapel is a sin then. " There you go. And we all know the Renaissance painters weren't really Christian. Not devout, anyway. Hell, Leonardo Da Vinci was a vegetarian, which was against church doctrine. Michelangelo Buonarroti viewed the male body as more beautiful than the female's, which affected him artistically . . . and morally. Raphael Sanzio slept around and died from having too much sex the night before (he fell into a fever and lied about the cause, so the doctor gave him a different medication, which killed him). Quod Erat Demonstrandum. |
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Post by 669 on Mar 5, 2009 7:02:30 GMT -5
"Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above" I guess the sistene chapel is a sin then. " There you go. And we all know the Renaissance painters weren't really Christian. Not devout, anyway. Hell, Leonardo Da Vinci was a vegetarian, which was against church doctrine. Michelangelo Buonarroti viewed the male body as more beautiful than the female's, which affected him artistically . . . and morally. Raphael Sanzio slept around and died from having too much sex the night before (he fell into a fever and lied about the cause, so the doctor gave him a different medication, which killed him). Quod Erat Demonstrandum. If there's a point in there I would like to hear it. |
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Post by dreadtech on Mar 5, 2009 8:47:36 GMT -5
Personally I think it comes down to the person and how the religion affects them. If a person betters themselves or is a good person by following a religion, I don't see what the problem is. If believing in something makes you strive to better yourself, I'm all for that. But the problem lies in people stepping over the line and preaching or not liking anybody who's not in the same boat.
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Post by shilohdegreat on Mar 5, 2009 9:33:53 GMT -5
There you go. And we all know the Renaissance painters weren't really Christian. Not devout, anyway. Hell, Leonardo Da Vinci was a vegetarian, which was against church doctrine. Michelangelo Buonarroti viewed the male body as more beautiful than the female's, which affected him artistically . . . and morally. Raphael Sanzio slept around and died from having too much sex the night before (he fell into a fever and lied about the cause, so the doctor gave him a different medication, which killed him). Quod Erat Demonstrandum. If there's a point in there I would like to hear it. The point was to correct your horrid spelling and then I went on to offer the idea that the famous renaissance artists were not truly devout Christians, since back then the Church was the Word, and the artists didn't necessarily follow Christian doctrine. Vegetarianism, homosexual thoughts, and lust were all sins according to the Church's doctrine (as well as that of the Bible, but the Bible is no longer the supreme authority). I was making the point that the creators of the Sistine Chapel took religion and created art, and that they were not devout in their faith. I didn't think it was that difficult to understand. |
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Post by iplayofp on Mar 5, 2009 18:53:38 GMT -5
God used Science to make us...... end this thread but seriously that is what I believe and I will believe no matter what
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Post by Darknezz on Mar 5, 2009 21:30:58 GMT -5
God used Science to make us...... end this thread but seriously that is what I believe and I will believe no matter what You're good at debates, and totally not a close-minded freak that contradicted himself. |
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