MGS4

[sabath]

If you played MGS4 or finished it Pleas share what you think of the game and posting your thoughts here

I thoght it was....AWESOME!!!!!!

[jarmanator]

MGS4 is freaking sweet, my only beef with the game though is that the bosses are nothing to write home about.

Apart from the first one and the Liquid fight, they're kinda flat, compared to Psycho Mantis and The End anyway.

[animehater]

What's with half of the final boss battle being a cutscene?

[Sax]

I've played a bit of it and it is awesome, also MGO is fun from what I've played.

[voidshatter]

MGO is great, hard to level up though, and everytime im sneaking around, THE second i get to the end i get caught, crazy shit

[GreyFoxVinzin]

During the Mantis part, try the "Switching the controller to port 2" for a funny scene (you might need 2 controllers for it to work)

[voidshatter]

the final boss battle was EPIC! i saved an extra file just for it

[notoriousv]

The Altair outfit is hilarious.

[beersofwar]

i was nervous going into this game. This is my favorite game series and i was afraid it wouldnt end as well as i hoped it would.

That being said, i couldnt have been more pleased with the way it ended. The bosses were great, the gameplay was great, and the storytelling was great. I really have no complaints at all.

[voidshatter]

I FOUND OUT SOMETHING AWESOME!

if you start a new game, during the movie with a chef cutting off a snakes head, you can change the channel by hitting the R2 or L2 or d-pad buttons

one channel includes a guest appearance by david hayter (snakes voice actor)

p.s. anyone who earns the big boss emblem is a god

[kururu]

Beauties dancing to the Jpop song

www.gamevideos.com/video/id/19520

Mind has been blown

[thecosmicfly]

Here's a half assed box art concept picture I made of Ninja Raiden. Could do with more work but I'm tired atm. Tell me what you guys think.

[beersofwar]

wow cosmic, thats pretty kick ass. I would buy it

[school]

So this is an incredibly long post (although not as long as the ending of this game *ZING*) and I can understand if no one reads it. I mostly touched on the ending which I felt needed more discussion.

I guess spoilers are cool right? If you don't want massive spoilers don't read my post.





So I thought MGS4 was very strong through out the game. Act 1's stealth in action was an interesting concept. Act 2's tracking was absolutely awesome, hide in seek with laughing, awesome. The ending of Act 2 with all the geckos ehhhh. I didn't really like it. Lost opportunity with all the zombie-esque soldiers. Fight with raiden and vamp though, very awesome but having to run for two seconds away from gekos, very lame, why can't that be a cut scene? Act 3, did not like, the AI of the member was absolutely fucking stupid. He would be caught so much and when you tranq the guards and save his ass he runs back to pretty much the start of the path and re-walks, only to be caught again, and repeat. The boss fight was eh, it was really easy. If you ever did get hit there were so many places to hide and regenerate health that I never had to use a ration. Oh and again with the scripted chase. The details you learn about the patriots here is a little iffy, I mean the practically throw away characters in MGS3 were the patriots really? Eh. But the ending cut scene was absolutely bad ass but that still doesn't make up for the bad gameplay through out.

Act 4's beginning with the MGS1 flash back was incredibly clever and really made you see how much this game has improved. But I thought the constant pulls of HEY YOU HAVE BEEN HERE REMEMBER THIS bullshit pulled through out and the constant pointing out of this fact got tiring. Also all the minigeks in this area are really stupid and very easy to get past. The sneaking in inside Shadow Moses was actually quite good. The furnace area with the gekos was very well done. Also those gekos in the area where you fought raven in the first solid game totally scared the shit out of me. But the boss fight with crying was what I thought to be the best fight in the game. I really love the lying in wait for the target to come up. Also the wind factor in this area is a incredibly smart touch. The "twist" with Vamp being alive with nanomachines that seal wounds fast was interesting, it made you to use CQC, something I thought very underutilized. The split screen fight/snake killing gekos was kind of lame, I wish I could of watched more of the fight but kills with the rail gun was very nice. The thing with naomi having cancer, absolutely awesome. It made all her motivations for producing the nanomachines make sense but otacon's crying wow. Seriously dude can't do a fake cry worth shit, please stop making him.

During this part the major theme of how everything is a loop really kicks in. You can start to draw how most every boss is a remake of the original, how otacon loses someone every game, this I thought was clever and made sense. But moving on to the Rex parts. Controls for the Rex were very well done, having a sense of weight. There were infinite spawns of the gekos in the exit scene which bothered me. You can't kill them all, so you pretty much just have to barrel through. That I hated. But I LOVED the Ray fight. Very tense. Weapons were very well managed, although I think the CQC was just in there for comic relief, totally useless. Raiden cutting off his arm was an incredibly bad ass move although stopping a like 9000 pound ship really?

Act 5 started out well. The AI was pretty tough but one thing that was just stupid is the gekos at the end of the door. I have read you can get lucky and have the ships fire kill the guarding geko but if you don't you run into an infinitive spawning geko problem again and it makes the situation stupidly hard. Psycho fight was very good, I enjoyed the concept of the dolls. And again with the everything is a loop theme. Okay but I would say the ending starts here and here is were I start to have major qualms with the game.

Merryl and Johnny. No. Please Kojima I know you love your cheese but all this part of the ending. Horrible. I cringed worse then all the Johnny potty jokes. Snake crawling through the microwaved area. This was awesome. The split screen works really really well here. I looks like everything is going to shit and the drama is absolutely awesome. Although what the fuck at still having to guide him from hitting the walls. I kept on having to look away from the split again to make sure he was going straight, this should of been a simple button tap. I was thinking if Snake died here it would be an awesome ending. All of his work, all the suffering, nothing came from it, very dramatic.

But of course he doesn't die. Hal gets into the AI main room uploads the virus only to see it is destroying it all. Split shows everything going down and then naomi shows up and gives an amazing monologue, again I thought to myself, wow the game ends here, amazing. Snake save the world and gives his life to do so, even fucking better. BUT NO.

It goes on and you fight again. Liquid on the very top. Okay I get this, it fits the main theme alright lets do this. *PUNCH* HEY HAVE SOME REKINDLED MEMORIES. I mean the life bars were cute and all but he regains health when the bars change? How lame. Also the controls during this part. HORRIBLE. I mean they don't even tell you the fucking controls, there is no way to pause and read a briefing. I had to do this fight over so many times because I didn't know you could block. Also QTEs? I could rant about how much I hate QTEs all day but I won't, just I know I really hate them. So I finally defeat Liquid and I am relieved and thinking how stupid that fight was, but I guess it was needed. Game over right? WRONG.

They have to make fucking sure you knew Merryl and Johnny got married, how fucking stupid. Isn't that already known did you really have to show us this? Also that scene with sunny and the little boy. Wow. I absolutely cringed so hard at the stupidity of this scene. Raiden scene okay, so that was good. Rose not really being married. Jack meeting his son for the first time. Emotional stuff. Snake gun in mouth, goes black, hear shot. So the credits roll. BUT NO IT ISNT OVER YET. (So snake has the power to dodge bullets while having the gun in his mouth? Riiiiiiight.)

So Big Boss isn't really dead. They just made it seem like it from Solidus' body. But what I didn't get was wasn't eva in on this? Why would she do all that trouble in Act 2 since she knew Big Boss was alive? So the ocelot thing, I was fine with that. At least they didn't say nanomachines again. Big Boss knew all about him but still chose to commit suicide by meeting him. Wheeling in zero just to kill him was totally not needed, although understandable, wanting him to be with the other dead patriots. Big Boss talking about paternity was nice. But I mean, this all could of been wrapped up so much better. But if you have read this far I applaud you.



TL;DR

Gameplay is really good, best in series.
Story wrap up sucked badly but was complete.

Kojima learn how to end a game proper with out carrying on for two hours doing it.

[voidshatter]

Jun 30, 2008 13:13:02 GMT -5 school said:

It goes on and you fight again. Liquid on the very top. Okay I get this, it fits the main theme alright lets do this. *PUNCH* HEY HAVE SOME REKINDLED MEMORIES. I mean the life bars were cute and all but he regains health when the bars change? How lame. Also the controls during this part. HORRIBLE. I mean they don't even tell you the f**king controls, there is no way to pause and read a briefing. I had to do this fight over so many times because I didn't know you could block.

you can pause with select, it also shows controls