redunit10
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Post by redunit10 on Apr 17, 2009 12:25:37 GMT -5
Alright, you are a PC user I take it. I shall continue to read your post.
I also see you don't like Mac's, ok, I shall rebuttal your statement. If by a boat load of money, you mean a complete working machine for $500 and up? Then yes, but I'm not poor so I don't consider $500 a large amount of cash.
Eh? You mean games, right? Mac software (I feel) is elegant, very un-complicated, and very efficient. Also, Mac's now have this great program called "CrossOver". It allows a newer Mac (ones that run off the Intel chip) to use ANY PC program to run natively on the mac, although it is relatively new and some of the PC software requires a little tinkering (a few .dll files onto CrossOver) it works pretty darn well. I use it to play most PC games right on my Mac.
You must be one lucky PC user, or perhaps you use a virus software? In any case, there ARE Mac viruses, they are just very rare.
Ummm, no. I'm able to open any Mac and fix it myself with spare parts, and I only learned how to do so from my father. (a Mac computer operator) Even if I did have to take my Mac to a Mac store to get fixed, I have a brain and can run a small business for a day. (the maximum time for a Mac store to repair your Mac)
I again have no idea what your babbling on about this time, Mac's run games fine. I'm a Mac gamer myself.
I use a Black Edition of the MacBook, 2 GHz Intel Core Duo, 2GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM, Mac OS X 10.5.6
My name is RedUnit10, and I'm a Mac.
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Ultimatum
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Post by Ultimatum on Apr 17, 2009 13:15:29 GMT -5
I prefer PC because thats what I'm used to and a mac
for me is just too expensive. But mac's are so extremely
sexy lol.
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Post by totalcaligula on Apr 18, 2009 22:07:58 GMT -5
I have a Mac laptop and a PC desktop. Personally I think they both have their merits.
Macs are of course good with mulitimedia and sharing and connectivity and ipods right?
PCs are definately the choice if you intend to game on a computer or use a lot of word processors.
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leedaklutz
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Post by leedaklutz on Apr 25, 2009 20:52:51 GMT -5
pc. i almost converted to mac twice but im still with pc.
i know this is gonna be cheezy, but for all the pc people out there...
"Name one thing that your PC can do that my Mac can't!"
"Right-click."
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Post by loginnameperson on Apr 25, 2009 21:21:51 GMT -5
Macs don't have viruses because no one likes the Mac.
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Post by Darknezz on Apr 25, 2009 21:51:39 GMT -5
I also see you don't like Mac's, ok, I shall rebuttal your statement. If by a boat load of money, you mean a complete working machine for $500 and up? Then yes, but I'm not poor so I don't consider $500 a large amount of cash. Now, now, don't bring "poor" into this. $500 is a lot of money for most of us who are under 18, jobless, and whose parents aren't rich. I find $500 to be quite a high price, though completely worth it, considering how much longer a PC will last compared to a console in the gaming market, which is by far the most taxing software market in the computer industry. Your "rebuttal" also didn't address the concern; PCs have more power than Macs of the same price, which is completely true. CrossOver doesn't make them run as native program, first off. It emulates them, much like Wine on Linux, or how an emulator for GBA games works. This means that the program requirements go up by a lot. Coupled with the mentioned price, it's bullshit. Mac programs, while they do have a sleeker design, it doesn't matter; A PC can run basically everything a Mac can through a Mac emulator, and since the PC has more power than a Mac already, we win. Plus, there's no reason to run Mac programs, because Windows can run Photoshop and other Adobe products. And why are they rare? Because the Mac is crap. To be perfectly honest, if you don actively run an antivirus on a computer, Mac or not, with several back-up anti-malware programs, you're a fool and shouldn't own a PC. I can do the same to PCs. It's a matter of knowledge, and Macs are more fiddly than PCs. Macs don't run games fine. They run some very old games fine. Otherwise, you have to go through CrossOver. My name is Darknezz. I'm a person that just kicked your logic's as s. |
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Ant0o0wn
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Post by Ant0o0wn on Jun 9, 2009 9:05:10 GMT -5
With a mac you can actually get best both worlds. Macs can run xp/vista so you can just switch between the two operating systems. If you want gaming use the xp/vista, if you want graphic design use the OSX. I think PCs can also run OSX.... just not sure how.....
This post is not debatable and doesn't take a side on the issue, and is therefore not acceptable for the debate forum. Warning level raised. -Darknezz
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Post by brandonjm on Jun 18, 2009 13:36:29 GMT -5
pc. i almost converted to mac twice but im still with pc. i know this is gonna be cheezy, but for all the pc people out there... "Name one thing that your PC can do that my Mac can't!" "Right-click." Yeaaa, FYI Macs have right click... And really people, one is not better than the other. It’s all about what you feel comfortable using. I’m more comfortable using a Mac, and find I can get things done faster because of this. This does not mean Macs are superior to PCs it’s just personal choice. |
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zekana
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Post by zekana on Jun 18, 2009 16:54:09 GMT -5
from my experience, macs seem to be better editing wise. like video editing and sound editing and that type of stuff, atleast thats what it seemed like from my schools macs.
pc's have videogames. thats about it.
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Post by dirtydiablo on Jun 21, 2009 2:37:09 GMT -5
I also see you don't like Mac's, ok, I shall rebuttal your statement. If by a boat load of money, you mean a complete working machine for $500 and up? Then yes, but I'm not poor so I don't consider $500 a large amount of cash. Now, now, don't bring "poor" into this. $500 is a lot of money for most of us who are under 18, jobless, and whose parents aren't rich. I find $500 to be quite a high price, though completely worth it, considering how much longer a PC will last compared to a console in the gaming market, which is by far the most taxing software market in the computer industry. Your "rebuttal" also didn't address the concern; PCs have more power than Macs of the same price, which is completely true. CrossOver doesn't make them run as native program, first off. It emulates them, much like Wine on Linux, or how an emulator for GBA games works. This means that the program requirements go up by a lot. Coupled with the mentioned price, it's bullshit. Mac programs, while they do have a sleeker design, it doesn't matter; A PC can run basically everything a Mac can through a Mac emulator, and since the PC has more power than a Mac already, we win. Plus, there's no reason to run Mac programs, because Windows can run Photoshop and other Adobe products. And why are they rare? Because the Mac is crap. To be perfectly honest, if you don actively run an antivirus on a computer, Mac or not, with several back-up anti-malware programs, you're a fool and shouldn't own a PC. I can do the same to PCs. It's a matter of knowledge, and Macs are more fiddly than PCs. Macs don't run games fine. They run some very old games fine. Otherwise, you have to go through CrossOver. My name is Darknezz. I'm a person that just kicked your logic's as s. I own a Macbook myself, and i do not see any problems with it at all. Sure Macs are expensive. But its well worth the price. And sure if something goes wrong with your Mac, not everyone can fix it themselves. But guess what, its the same for a car. If something goes wrong with it, you usually take it to the car shop or dealership to get it fixed. If something were to happen to my Mac, i would take it the Apple store, which is no surprise seeing how it is free. Let me see you try that with Microsoft. You've mentioned that PC's have more power than Macs of the same price. What "power" are you actually talking about? Thanks to the utility Bootcamp that comes with Leopard, i was able to partition my HD and install windows XP on my other partition. Pair that up with the app VMware Fusion, i can seamlessly run both operating systems at the same time with zero problems. And why are Mac viruses rare? Well because about 80% of the world uses windows including very large corporations (with the other 20% being different operating systems). If someone wanted to bring down a lot computers at once with one virus, which kind of operating system would that person develop a virus for? Windows. And Macs are more fiddly than PCs? care to explain what you mean by "fiddly?" Sounds like your someone that is not familiar with Macs, they have specialists that can help you with that you know. I am familiar with using both Leopard and Windows, and i find that using a Mac is very much more user friendly than a PC. There is no start menu to go through, file exploration is simpler than ever, and Mac's are just so much more visually appealing than windows. And you say "..while they do have a sleeker design, it doesn't matter; A PC can run basically everything a Mac can.." How can you compare what a PC can run to a Macs much sleeker design? That kind of argument is not valid what so ever. It is not fair to judge whether a PC is better than a Mac just by how well it can run games on it or not. First of all, computers weren't made specifically for gaming. And there's a reason why PC games are called well, PC games, because You really just have to look at where the market is. If 80% of the people in the world use windows on a PC, then don't you think developers would write games specifically for the PC? Its no surprise that you see more hardware and software for the PC because the it has a much much larger market. $500 can go a long way for a Mac. You get great service, sleek and visual appealing software, and easy to use hardware. My name is DirtyDiablo, and i just "kicked" your "logic." |
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Post by davethezombie on Jun 21, 2009 2:48:05 GMT -5
This thread is getting out of hand. Both computer systems are suited for different people. Neither is "better" than the other. Locked.
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Post by Darknezz on Jun 21, 2009 19:02:21 GMT -5
I own a Macbook myself, and i do not see any problems with it at all. Nor do I. I just don't think there's any reason to claim that it's better than a PC. PCs have more functionality, while Macs are more focused in terms of media editing. A Windows rig is a jack of all trades. I don't need to try that with Microsoft. Mostly because Microsoft doesn't even sell prebuilt machines aside from the occasional laptop, but also partly Windows machines are easy to maintain and even easier to find someone who isn't from the overpriced computer shops to repair. That aside, maintaining a computer is completely irrelevant when judging whether one is better than the other. I was speaking in general terms of hardware capability. A Mac is usually overpriced when compared to a custom built rig, because the custom rig will have more computing power, more RAM, and a better video card, all for around the same price. As for dual-booting, total non-sequitor. How does being able to dual boot do anything for the computer's hardware? Okay, Windows rigs are more popular than Mac rigs. Accepted as true, this doesn't mean that a Mac is any better than a PC simply because it doesn't get viruses. A Windows rig will remain virus free, so long as you're not on the Gnutella network, torrenting obviously fake files, and you've got a decent antivirus. A PC runs thing a whole ton better, but the Mac looks prettier. That's what your argument boils down to. That kind of argument is never ever valid. A Windows rig can be every bit as pretty as a Mac, except that a PC can run a wider range of software. As for the interface of a Mac, being raised on a PC my self, I find it very odd at first. After fiddling around with it, you get used to it, but the switch is strange at the least. No sh it, Sherlock. Windows games obviously have a larger market. And I'm not saying that a PC is always better because it can run games. I'm saying it's better to fit the needs of people who play video games. It's also better for just about everything else, aside from media editing, which I mentioned earlier. And running servers, but that cakes goes to Linux. Prettier interface and one-button mouse. Totally a good selling point over increased functionality. I'm sorry, I'm gonna go buy a Mac now. No you didn't. |
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Post by talset09 on Jun 22, 2009 23:10:11 GMT -5
I don't know which is better. I say PC for gaming, and Mac for my school work. I also heard Mac doesn't get infected much.
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Post by sipkur on Jun 24, 2009 23:33:33 GMT -5
macs.
Macs run faster and do not get viruses.
most people say macs are only good for graphics/design and stuff but that is completely WRONG. my mac (eMac 1.25GHZ 1GB ram) isnt fast enough to do most of that stuff but it loads Web pages faster than a 2.0 dual core 3GB ram Vista laptop and thats all i want.
Those who say macs cant right click are full of it. the new mighty mouse has a right click sensor in it and you can plug in ANY usb mouse and get right click
also BootCamp for the mac lets you run XP and Vista fully so macs can play games and run word processers.
to finish my argument off, a PC magazine said that the best laptop they could find to run vista was a macbook using bootcamp
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Post by Darknezz on Jun 24, 2009 23:49:51 GMT -5
macs. Macs run faster and do not get viruses. Macs don't run faster. Actually, I think there was a study performed that showed Mac OSX and Leopard both take up more system resources than Windows XP. Loading web pages has next to nothing to do with processor speed and RAM size. No one claims that the right clicking issue is that big of a deal. Yes, but then you've got two operating systems running on the same machine. This is next to impossible on lower-end machines and eats up a lot of resources. And that isn't the Mac playing games. It's Windows running it. Windows is being run on the same hardware as a Mac. There is no interaction between the two. Vista blows, and the fact that it runs better on a Macbook (which I have to assume they reformatted and therefore essentially are just using its hardware) doesn't make the Macbook any better. And a PC magazine can claim basically anything they want to. And I guarantee there weren't very many laptops tested. |
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