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Post by Cocyx The Skeleton on Dec 12, 2008 14:26:52 GMT -5
ecks dee so random
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zgish
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Post by zgish on Dec 18, 2008 2:53:27 GMT -5
I used to believe in God, but when I realized that I'm believing in an invisible diety who loves yet hates, who creates only to destroy, and has rules in his religious text such as the inability to wear two different cloths at one time or the fact that I'm listening to pastors who like to cherry pick and falsify the truth.
People only listen to pastors because they tend to be too freaking lazy to read the actual bible themselves.
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Post by inquisition on Dec 18, 2008 20:10:47 GMT -5
If there is a God, he's a dick and I'd rather burn in hell.
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phillip00
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Post by phillip00 on Dec 21, 2008 1:48:47 GMT -5
you'd rather burn in hell...
fuck yourself right now up the ass
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Post by turtlebeachesftw on Dec 23, 2008 3:15:45 GMT -5
Atheist use the arguement about how ppl use faith as a scapegoat for their problems when it is far from it, Religion has evolved just like science. If not, religion goes and science go hand and hand. I prefer to believe in teh Christian God because KNOWING their is something after death is good to know.
The reason it is called faith is becuase you believe without knowing and people have forgotten that over the years thinking that you are somehow smarter if you dont believe in God. Like I said before, God and science pratically hold hands, why cant God use science to create us in 7 days, how do you know that God's 7 days are our 7 days? Maybe 7 days is a couple million years through Evolution(Which im skeptical about)
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Post by Wednesday_R on Dec 23, 2008 13:30:39 GMT -5
I can't side with either pseudo-dark Atheists who have to yell "There is no God" every two seconds or Evangelical bible-thumper Christians.
Both groups reek of hypocrisy.
I've always been fine with saying I'm not enough of an egotist to run around claiming I know what exists and what doesn't. And if there is a God, I doubt he's want his creations to be that pretentious.
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Post by Cocyx The Skeleton on Dec 23, 2008 15:15:26 GMT -5
whoop da boop was waiting for someone to play the 'OGM ALL ATHEISTS DO IS SAY THERE IS NO GOD WTF' card even though the only time i ever saw anyone say that was in this thread that happens to be a debate about religion
look at travis, he even -defends- the christian side from some ham-fisted atheist arguments, how can you call him 'pseudo-dark'
your use of the word pretentious is so jhonen vasquez that i want to surgically implant eyes into my skull just so i can gouge them out waurghghh
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Post by str4ngerd4nger on Dec 23, 2008 15:22:26 GMT -5
atheists believe the universe evolved from nothing
atheists believe that God is nothing
do i need to finish this?
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Post by Wednesday_R on Dec 23, 2008 15:25:07 GMT -5
whoop da boop was waiting for someone to play the 'OGM ALL ATHEISTS DO IS SAY THERE IS NO GOD WTF' card even though the only time i ever saw anyone say that was in this thread that happens to be a debate about religion look at travis, he even -defends- the christian side from some ham-fisted atheist arguments, how can you call him 'pseudo-dark' your use of the word pretentious is so jhonen vasquez that i want to surgically implant eyes into my skull just so i can gouge them out waurghghh You obviously misread my post. I didn't say all Atheists. I said the ones who do go around saying there is no God, and that is "pretentious." If you deny the existence of a sizable obnoxious population (the same as the sizable population of religious fanatics), maybe you should gouge your eyes out, because they're not doing much for you anyway. |
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Post by turtlebeachesftw on Dec 23, 2008 15:25:10 GMT -5
I can't side with either pseudo-dark Atheists who have to yell "There is no God" every two seconds or Evangelical bible-thumper Christians. Both groups reek of hypocrisy. I've always been fine with saying I'm not enough of an egotist to run around claiming I know what exists and what doesn't. And if there is a God, I doubt he's want his creations to be that pretentious. Nicely put |
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Post by Cocyx The Skeleton on Dec 23, 2008 15:50:21 GMT -5
You obviously misread my post. I didn't say all Atheists. you...kinda did actually, i don't see how you didn't label both sides of the spectrum 'extremists' with the 'I can't side with either pseudo-dark Atheists who have to yell "There is no God" every two seconds or Evangelical bible-thumper Christians.' line If you deny the existence of a sizable obnoxious population (the same as the sizable population of religious fanatics), maybe you should gouge your eyes out, because they're not doing much for you anyway. where'd i deny it? i was merely proving that not all atheist play that aforementioned stereotype ironic that you accuse me of misinterpreting sh it when you immediately do the exact same thing in the same post |
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Post by Wednesday_R on Dec 23, 2008 16:11:14 GMT -5
"i don't see how you didn't label both sides of the spectrum 'extremists'"
It's called an adjective (I.E. "pseudo-dark", or "evangelical"), holding the power to instantly negate any phrase from affecting an entire population and only applying to those that the word describes.
Reading comprehension, pal.
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Post by Cocyx The Skeleton on Dec 23, 2008 16:56:54 GMT -5
oh okay; so you're saying you're able to side with atheists that aren't described exactly as you portrayed them (pseudo-dark and whatnot) like travis and other atheists that posted earlier?
i assumed you, y'know, wanted to make -sense-, so i gave you a bit of a stretch to fit the 'I've always been fine with saying I'm not enough of an egotist to run around claiming I know what exists and what doesn't.' line which basically means you're only able to side with 'agnostics', not with atheists/christians who aren't extremists, so why not just say 'well screw both parties!' (which i thought you meant in the first place)
but anyway; i dig what you're saying, i hate extremists too on both parties so i'm totally w/ you on that aspect, i'm more attacking the concept of 'god' itself and the -chances- of something of that nature could possibly exist compared to some other equally ludicrous concept (hooray for fsm!) instead of outright going WELL GOD DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE __________.
i guess what i'm saying is that theres no way to prove god doesn't or does exist; but at least i can try to prove that its a highly unlikely concept
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Post by Darknezz on Dec 23, 2008 17:39:59 GMT -5
atheists believe the universe evolved from nothing atheists believe that God is nothing do i need to finish this? No, you don't, because your premise is already wrong. Atheism is not the belief that there is no god, or the belief that God is nothing. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god. Technically speaking, every person on the Earth is atheistic regarding every God that isn't part of their religion; Jews are atheistic regarding Jesus, etc. Atheism also does not tie to evolution, and evolution has nothing to do with how the universe came about. My god, Stranger, do you know anything about this subject? First off, again, atheism is not the belief that there is no God. Second, how do they "reek of hypocrisy"? I would like you to bakc up that assertion. I would also like to tell you that theism and atheism are not about knowing. They are about believing. Gnosticism and agnosticism are what you know, or claim to know. Theism and atheism are what you choose to believe. That said, you can be a combination of both; Agnostic atheist, gnostic theist, etc. So, you're agnostic, in that you don't claim to know, but are you a theist or an atheist? You don't have to answer, but think about it. |
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Post by Wednesday_R on Dec 23, 2008 18:18:07 GMT -5
I'm beginning to think maybe I should have been clearer...
I wouldn't agree/disagree with the belief system in place for anyone, I was only expressing my distaste for both extremes, including anyone who feels the need to force their beliefs down your throat whether or not you want to hear them.
In my own experience, that is a very common trait among theists and atheists alike.
More than anything, I suppose I was setting in stone my own neutrality.
To answer your question, I would say I lean more to one way, but its more of a spiritual belief than one of this deity or that.
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