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Post by str4ngerd4nger on Feb 1, 2009 20:02:06 GMT -5
just one quick note. I am fairly certain california is discussing the legalization of marijuana. and also, something recently passed in texas. it is legal to be carrying 4 ounces of marijuana. and in some cities it is legal to be smoking it, as long as you don't pose a threat. I.E. smoking it while driving
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Post by Travis on Feb 1, 2009 20:12:14 GMT -5
Keep things how they are, but restrict alcohol and tobacco even more. Alcohol should not even be legal in the first place, the only reason it is is because it's so popular among lawmakers and violent antiprohibitionists. why restrict it even more? let people make their mistakes. all restricting it more does is take more money out of our pockets. thats it
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Post by Oreo on Feb 2, 2009 16:13:32 GMT -5
why restrict it even more? let people make their mistakes. all restricting it more does is take more money out of our pockets. thats it Getting hit headon by an oncoming car going 80 miles an hour around a sharp turn with screaming teenagers in the backseat. My mistake. Yeah, we can all agree that that shit sucks and no one should ever have to experience it, but have you heard of a thing called Prohibition? Yeah, that worked well. People just need to smarten up. As for my side, I say decriminalization of marijuana is definitely needed. It is slowly passing in many states. Just a couple months ago, Massachusetts decriminalized possession of a gram or less. So many teens will stay out of jail. I'm really excited. I agree with Skyliner 110%. Just tax the shit out of it like everything else. We are paying way too much for a failing drug war. People like to argue that making it legal will make more people do it and it's a gateway drug, but that's a hell of a lot of bullshit. Research has shown that is not addictive at all. People who are "Addicted" just have addictive personalities, like Darknezz and his chocolate, or me and my video games. I've smoked before, but even if it were legalized, I'd probably do nothing different from what I already am. I didn't race to cigarettes when I was 18, and I still never plan to smoke a cigarette in my life, because I care about my body. And for the same reason I will decide whether or not I should smoke marijuana if it is legalized. Just a quick note, I'd like to talk about the past, since that's what started the issue. Back in the the 1950's, advertisements for cigarettes use to host pictures of DOCTORS' FAVORITES. www.nchealthandhealing.com/elements/media/topic-media/3_5_Doctors_smoke_camels.jpgMy point is, we didn't know. In 1964, the Surgeon General appeared with the warnings we see on all cigarette packages. Since they weren't aware of the dangers, they continued to smoke. Right now, Americans are taught that drugs are bad and you will die. Since we live in the age of technology, anyone and their mother *if she's smart enough* can get online and find thousands upon thousands of articles, news reports, VIDEOS, anything on any topic they want. The reason the youth isn't believing the bullshit we were taught when we were younger is because we have a way to find the truth. We now know that we won't go psycho and kill people. We won't get addicted. We won't be bad drivers. We won't wake up on someone's back porch wondering "Wtf just happened." After coming out of the dark on the subject, and doing a couple hours of reading, anyone can see how absolutely ridiculous it is to keep it illegal. Sorry I'm long-winded when it comes to this stuff. =x
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Post by 669 on Feb 2, 2009 16:18:26 GMT -5
In my opinion you control your own body and what you do with it so yeah I think it should be legal. I don't smoke it myself but to be honest there are a lot of drugs that people consider not beeing drugs just cause they are legal. But I think all drugs should be legal, then the prisons wouldn't be over-populated and market wouldn't be run by maffia through child labour etc.
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Post by rabbeseking on Feb 2, 2009 18:35:52 GMT -5
I was at school today, and one of my Biology books has "Smoke Weed Everyday" on the side of it.
It must be a sign.
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Post by Oreo on Feb 3, 2009 1:21:25 GMT -5
So look, this was your original point, Sammiches:
"but restrict alcohol and tobacco even more. Alcohol should not even be legal in the first place, the only reason it is is because it's so popular among lawmakers and violent antiprohibitionists."
Now, I see you try to back up your point with stories of drunk driving and smokers being limited to not smoking in restaurants, sure, that's fine. Do you want them to restrict alcohol from pubs, too? Good luck with that. Do you want them to sell only a certain number of bottles to one person? Okay, they'll just go to another store and get more, just like when they tried to limit the purchase of methamphetamine products a couple years ago to reduce meth production. That didn't work so well, either. How exactly do you suppose you could even do that? You know you can't outlaw it. That's been done. That didn't work, either.
There are people who are moderate users, and there are people who are abusers. You already know this, and apparently you have first-hand experience, since this bothers you so much. For that, I am sorry, but for this debate, I'm afraid you lose. Not only that, but it's not even the topic at hand. If you feel so strongly about this, you should start a new thread and put some solutions in it. I'll debate you there.
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Post by uberryan on Feb 3, 2009 3:00:23 GMT -5
It should be legal. All drugs should be legal, if someone kills themself taking legal crystal meth, that's their problem. hey smart guy, what if someone kills someone else, because they took an illegal drug? What if someone kills someone else to get that illegal drug, like they do now, even still. Your logic is flawed, and in short, you're an idiot. Weed, while not exactly harmful, mentally or physically, if legalized should be taxed to hell. It would cause a huge economic gain for the government. We're talking complete 180 from where we are now, with an additional 300%. However, until it's made legal, we'll keep issuing citations for possession of it, and putting people away for dealing it.
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Post by bigboss815 on Feb 16, 2009 18:28:37 GMT -5
Many of my friends now currently smoke marijuana and to be honest it hasnt affected there lives that negatively at all. I think legalization of it would probaly be fine and also it could be taxed like other products. The only issue with this is the theory that if you legalize it they would start legalizing more dangerous drugs. This may not be an issue for some although I do find that to be a problem...then you could end up with a lot of people who do not know what they are doing taking dangerous drugs putting them and others in danger...this could be rectified by creating an educational system based on responsible use of drugs in moderation should that be the hobby you choose to pursue but even then that would not be fool proof. Legalization of Marijuana...okay fine...but legalization of PCP and Meth....no
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Post by jamtoast on Feb 21, 2009 10:51:43 GMT -5
yea a good portion of my friends smoke pot and there perfectly fine and dirtysammiches your in idiot like you bring up a few good points but weeds not tht bad its not as bad as booze and not addictive like a bottle should not be solace yea i agree but guess wat people still r because guess wat they want somthin to null the pain like oh idk if your wife dies im pretty sure thts ganna be a giant f***ing thorn in your side tht you might wanna null the pain to yea its not good to null it every second of everyday and u said yea when im in my twentys im ganna call u in a drunken haze if your not old enough dont talk about it or never had it im not legally old enough tried it i personally dnt like it so i quit it but if uve never tried it dont say anything
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Post by tenshibo on Feb 21, 2009 15:50:57 GMT -5
it should be legal, but with limitations. 1) you can't smoke it in public or be high in public. 2) the general rules about alchohol should apply for it 3)has to be bought in a store, or if prescription based, gotten from a doctor. 4)needs to be an age limit where u have 2 b 2 smoke it.
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Post by jamtoast on Feb 23, 2009 15:13:38 GMT -5
yea sorry went a little overboard there
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Post by WeWantFun on Feb 24, 2009 17:11:42 GMT -5
its just one of those things, i mean if it did legalize, all the drug smugglers would be pretty pissed. Plus, i cant imagine walking down the street and just smelling the magic herbs every foot i take, then again nowone walks down the street nowadays.
But for medical purposes they should use it, for chemotherapy and such. Even a professor at Harvard suggests it to be legalized for medical purposes. I believe strongly in that, cuz my cousin needs chemotherapy, and he just gets sick every time he goes in for it. One day they tried using marijuana, and after Chemotherapy, the only reaction he had to it was hunger, jus wanting something to eat. No throwing up, or just feeling sick all day.
But, its just one of those things that wont ever work, like drug awareness groups and stuff like that. If people want to take these drugs and if they die from them (although its physically impossible to overdose from marijuana, u have to smoke pounds of it in order to overdose, pounds) its their own damn fault.
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Post by Icarus94 on Feb 28, 2009 14:37:52 GMT -5
medical is completely fine for me but if it was legalized for the public, all the laws imposed on smoking tobacco (i live in california) should apply and then some
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Post by faulttt on Feb 28, 2009 15:36:50 GMT -5
Dangers Of Marijuana: Impaired perception Diminished short-term memory Loss of concentration and coordination Impaired judgement Increased risk of accidents Loss of motivation Diminished inhibitions Increased heart rate Anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia Hallucinations Damage to the respiratory, reproductive, and immune systems Increased risk of cancer Psychological dependency www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htmThx god for google I do not support Marijuana
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Post by zekana on Mar 7, 2009 15:30:59 GMT -5
Dangers Of Marijuana: Impaired perception Diminished short-term memory Loss of concentration and coordination Impaired judgement Increased risk of accidents Loss of motivation Diminished inhibitions Increased heart rate Anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia Hallucinations Damage to the respiratory, reproductive, and immune systems Increased risk of cancer Psychological dependency www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htmThx god for google I do not support Marijuana um....., that stuff is no worse then what cigarettes and achohal will do to you yet those are legal. why should 2 things that are probably not as dangerous be allowed to be legal yet a drug that can actually be used to help people through medical purposes not be legal?
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