Should cuzzy be hated?

[evilplans]

well no, not that. something else.

[SnowOwl96]

People just don't know how to read. That's all.

[BrainCleaner]

say cuzy has 100 viewers(i know, this is just an instance)
10 of them find the JTV feed
2 of them find the forums and are good people and not fools then cuzzy is fine in what she's doing.

now, if she was to enter youtubes revenue system and start making money of comments/ratings/views there would be a whole new story there.

but you have 4playerpodcast, 4pphighlights, cuzzy, vensito and a few others uploading 4pp stuff on a regular basis. Alot of what they have is the same stuff but they each have a few unique videos so sub to them all, cos the more subs they have the higher up any lists they go and the more chance there is of people finding out about 4pp.

[Yahto]

As long as it all comes back to here, it's all good. I haven't seen anyone claiming any of that footage is theirs.

[arrow91]

Sadly, there's a lot of YT users who just don't seem know how 4PP works with the video sharing thing. They're all gonna start leaving hate comments on videos posted by 4PPhighlights, cuzzy, vensito, and a few others.

[thecosmicfly]

Hated? Those are some strong words there my friend.

Many people have been uploading JTV/4PP highlights long before Cuzzy was popular. She was helping out 4Player Podcast by advertising and putting the clips on youtube. I'm pretty sure a majority of the users who come here, even regulars, saw at least one of their videos on youtube. In which case we should thank those people. Cuzzy was just lucky (Or unlucky, depending on your viewpoint) to gain a lot of attention with the videos she uploaded. She can't help that. And she's not really taking the credit for any of the video's or anything. She points out a lot that she has nothing to do with the video's apart from uploading them. If Cuzzy was making a profit from those video's then yeah that would be out of order, but the most she would be doing now is stealing viewers from the official youtube 4Player Podcast channel. I doubt 4PP will be worried not getting in the honours list on youtube.

In any case, it doesn't matter how many times she would put in the discription, the title, in annotations or even edit the videos themselves to tell everyone she isn't 4PP, people are fucking morons who don't read. It's like those comments asking whats the name of a song even when its in the title. You can't combat that type of stupidity.

[AznSenzation]

Feb 28, 2009 14:03:17 GMT -5 thecosmicfly said:

Hated? Those are some strong words there my friend.

Many people have been uploading JTV/4PP highlights long before Cuzzy was popular. She was helping out 4Player Podcast by advertising and putting the clips on youtube. I'm pretty sure a majority of the users who come here, even regulars, saw at least one of their videos on youtube. In which case we should thank those people. Cuzzy was just lucky (Or unlucky, depending on your viewpoint) to gain a lot of attention with the videos she uploaded. She can't help that. And she's not really taking the credit for any of the video's or anything. She points out a lot that she has nothing to do with the video's apart from uploading them. If Cuzzy was making a profit from those video's then yeah that would be out of order, but the most she would be doing now is stealing viewers from the official youtube 4Player Podcast channel. I doubt 4PP will be worried not getting in the honours list on youtube.

In any case, it doesn't matter how many times she would put in the discription, the title, in annotations or even edit the videos themselves to tell everyone she isn't 4PP, people are fucking morons who don't read. It's like those comments asking whats the name of a song even when its in the title. You can't combat that type of stupidity.

You're right about the hated statement. Maybe I should've used better wording. I do understand your point of view on the matter, and it makes perfect sense. But what I can't get over is that cuzzy has more friends, more subscribers, and more publicity on youtube.

Example 1 - She's a page higher than 4PP on the most viewed for gaming on youtube.

Example 2 - I once posted a comment, saying "How many of you have ever gone to their site?" and I get like 8 comments back saying like, "LOL we don't cair ab0ut the syte, we jus want wach vide0s on utube!"

[thecosmicfly]

Feb 28, 2009 14:13:33 GMT -5 AznSenzation said:

...but what I can't get over is that cuzzy has more friends, more subscribers, and more publicity on youtube.

Example 1 - She's a page higher than 4PP on the most viewed for gaming on youtube.

The only one's who can really make a complaint about this is 4Player Podcast. If they want to they could claim Cuzzy is stealing their rightful viewers. We can't do much about it. We'll have to see what they think about this. Tbh honest though I don't think they'll bother about it much.

Feb 28, 2009 14:13:33 GMT -5 AznSenzation said:

Example 2 - I once posted a comment, saying "How many of you have ever gone to their site?" and I get like 8 comments back saying like, "LOL we don't cair ab0ut the syte, we jus want wach vide0s on utube!"

Please refer to "People are fucking morons" paragraph. Thats all I'll say on that subject.

I'm sure 4PP appreciates your concerns and I understand what you mean Azn, but really, this isn't much of an issue until 4PP says it is or if Cuzzy starts making some moolah off of their success, which I doubt she would.

What we really should be doing is tracking down asshats who are taking the highlights and claiming them as their own. Burn 'em, burn 'em all I say.

[crispychris17]

To me Cuzzy is the one that made me join
and watch 4pp so i don't hate her at all

[yellowfishstick]

Cuzzy should be thanked rather than Hated
So-what some people think it was cuzzy who made the vids. Usually the ones who figure out that she didn't are the ones with more than 1 braincell, that way the incredibly stupid youtubers who can't Understand that cuzzy didn't make the vids will not find thier way into the jtv chat room or the forums, where they would immediatly start chanting: Play GTA. Or some other shit like that.


Cuzzy should not be hated... YOU should (joke)

[ducknow31]

she has a video that shows who 4pp is. she gives them credit.
if you want to tell her to put up the link to jtv, do it. she's just a fan.

[str4ngerd4nger]

duck, word of advice: dont bump old threads

[zekana]

he was adding his own opinion to the topic with a valid point. how is that wrong?

anyway, ya, if she makes it very clear its not her and tells everyone about 4pp, then there is no problem. if those idiots don't bother to read or watch those vid/read discriptions then its their fault and they should be punished, not her.

[shortbus]

She does it for the same reason as videos are uploaded to the channels 4pphighlights and 4playerpodcast. It's not like she has a youtube partnership and is making money off 4pp. Also, if you notice in her descriptions, she links to 4playerpodcast.

[magico234]

Well, as it says in her channel, she is merely the middlewoman to upload longer highlights with actual video descriptions.

She has clearly stated, and has even posted on the main video on her channel "The People Behind my videos, Four Player Podcast!"

So, if people wrongly misjudge the videos based on content and the alleged artist, then they simply just have been mistaken